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    So my frog hasnt been eatting well for a month or so and seems to stop eatting in the past week. after reading some posts on here that doesnt seem as big a deal is it flipping over on its back, and getting stuck. the tank stays about 80- 90 degrees and humidity is almost 100%. I just recently bought a uv b light and before i only had a day and night light. any help and advice is appriceated.

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    First, what kind of frog is it?

    I'm experiencing an eating problem with my baby White's right now. S/he hasn't eaten in a week and had a problem shedding at first. The shedding problem seems to have gone away for now, but s/he still won't eat and is looking very skinny. S/he also seems to have problems with muscle spasms as well, jumping oddly, falling on his/her back, twitching arms, etc.

    It's been a week, so I decided a visit to the vet is in order.

    Here's my thread: http://www.frogforum.net/tree-frogs/...ck-whites.html

    Just take a look and see if there are any similarities. Maybe you should try a vet too.
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    For anyone viewing this thread, I believe this owner is refering to a Pacman Frog, just because this thread was placed in the Pacman Frog sub-forum. I know many Frog Experts search the "new post", so I can certainly see where the confusion is.

    Tips? 100% humidity is far too high for a Pacman Frog. You may have a lid without enough ventilation, or perhaps your substrate is too moist. It your heater is on your "wet" side (assuming you have a water dish on the side, and also assuming that you have an UTH or heat lamp on one specific side of the tank to provide a tempreture gradient), then that alone can make water evaporate and bring the humidity up higher.

    Also, Pacman Frogs prefer a tempreture of 80-85*F in the daytime, and 70-75*F at night. You don't want to go over 85, especially with high humidity (like writing smilly faces on the mirror in a small bathroom after someone took a long, very hot shower).

    I have heard from ealier threads about Pacman Frogs flipping. Perhaps you can search for the threads using the search option, and maybe even PM the owners who experienced the issue.

    My Pacman Frog, Malcolm, just ate the first cricket he had eaten in over a week and a half today. I am so proud of him. A month, though, seems abit long to go without eating properly. Perhaps your Pacman Frog doesn't feel confotable in his environment? Perhaps if you could provide more information on the setup (substrate, hides, heaters, etc) we could help you much more effectively.

    I hope this helps, and I really hope your Pacman Frog recovers his/her appetite!

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    Oh I'm sorry I didn't realize this was for a Pacman. XD; I should have checked. Oh well, I hope something in my post has helped you at least.

    Thanks MeTree, for clearing that up!
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    I too have had problems recently with my juvenile ornate flipping over. I have found him upside down twice now and replaced him back in his enclosure after a good warm-water soak. The first time I think it had something to do with my substrate drying out too much and him trying to shed. I pulled an entire body's worth of skin off of him. As for the second time, I have no idea. Sorry I can't be of much help. Good luck.

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    Default Re: Flipping frog

    I have seen frogs flipping on their backs at the zoo I worked at. Most of the amphibian keepers agreed that this is a fear response, especially by newly obtained animals. Frogs will often flip on their backs because they recognize danger, either real or perceived (could it be the unken reflex?) It's been my experience that this behavior will stop when the frog becomes comfortable with its surroundings.

    A more scarier explanation is that chytrid may cause a neurological condition called "absent righting reflex" (inability to right itself). If you frog appears healthy and feeding well, I am reasonably sure it is a fear response. Keep close watch to make sure no other symptoms develop.
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    yes its a pacman. its a ten gallon aquarium with the plastic hood, coconut bedding, two live plants, small water dish, and hollow wood shlter half. I guess I should get a metal mesh top to let some humidity out. ever since Ive been leaving the light on at night it hasnt been flipping but it still doesnt eat. I had a large shallow water dish but i was scared it would flip at night and drowned. thanks for the help.

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